If evidence is found that Obama did in fact know about the remarks in question, the same ones he denied knowledge of in that Fox News interview, his candidacy is in serious trouble.  If evidence turns up that he was actually present for any of the sermons in question, he’s done.

Nonsense!  Of course it was not enough.

He barely said what he had to say, which was I strongly disagree with all the crazy venom he’s spewing...but I’ve never seen anything like that in my time with him as pastor.

Are we seriously to believe that in 15 or so years of going to this church on and off, he NEVER heard anything of the sort.  So it’s just these several videos that are the few times that he fell off the deep end?

Crazy uncle is one thing.  But if you’re crazy uncle keeps talking, acting, and thinking like this...you dissociate yourself from him.

Obama is absolutely right to say these are ‘cherry-picked’. There are 52 Sundays a year, yet we’ve only seen THREE clips of the pastor saying these controversial things out of a six year context. Whether or not you find these particular words ‘hateful’ or ‘just burst of frustration’, the only people in the position to say Obama is in the wrong for “poisoning his children” with “this garbage” are ones who’ve actually witness a significant amount of sermons.

The media is on heavy sedatives. They do not want to be proven wrong, having taken big stakes in the Obama for President. They love the story, they dislike Mme. Clinton and they hope Iraq will be a bust, to leave no choice but for Obama. The problem is that he lacks candor. On every issue he has to backtrack. His mentor, Chicago Radical, Saul Alinsky, who also mentored Mme. Clinton, taught the two how to fly under the radar. Penetrate the system, break the laws, have secret agendas and above all do what it takes to get there. No one knows what he owes to outside entities, Middle East operators who began funding him from way back. His campaign was never audited properly, like his logs of church attendance or his over 70 parking tickets at Harvard. Law breaking is a bad thing for all of us, not for politicians, they get away with it. So did Obama with the odd financing (mistake, error), 20 years of hateful church visits (was not there, perhaps outside the hall? Making a phone call?), hundreds of Present votes, nominal appearances in the U.S senate, thin legislative experience, and lost of good vibrations. Electing a president on jive, hype, spin and half truth is very unfortunate, because the candidate will fail from day-1, the mistakes and the extortions will only keep piling. Does America need a Socialist in the White House?

Kip, I’d have trouble believing these were three completely random and uncharacteristic sermons.  No doubt they were cherry picked, but were all of the others mellow and about jesus and holding the hands of their white brothers?  My guess is not exactly. 

Kototty, I agree on Obama’s record, or complete lack thereof.  By missing a bunch of votes and then voting present on the others, he’s left himself no past to be scrutinized.  Now the only thing people have to consider is his public speaking skills, which are clearly quite stellar.  Too bad he’s completely full of it.

Aceman, and everyone else, you have every right to be skeptical. However, some of these accusations go too far. Most likely the pastor is just a frustrated black man from harder times, and I believe is “God damn America” speech has valid criticism of the US government. I have trouble believing that this former marine pastor is anti-American, or that the church is Black Separatist.

From what I’ve researched, it’s always called “warm and welcoming”, and I believe they even have a white minister there. Obama and Oprah don’t seem to have any hateful characteristics. I’ll have to keep doing research; today I’m checking out one of his books from the library. If you want to know what inspired his recent book, listen to the pastor’s sermon “Audacity To Hope”.

Kip, I’m glad you’re doing research for yourself and doing some thorough analysis before you jump to any conclusions...not many people do that these days. 

A few things.  First, the fact that the pastor was a marine really does not prevent him from being anti-American.  There are plenty of veterans that really dislike this country.  I applaud and am grateful for all of their service, but still, service does not necessarily imply you’re patriotic. 

Second, it’s too easy to pass this off as a frustrated black man.  I’m Jewish, and if we follow that logic, you can understand my gripes with all of Germany.  I’ve visited Germany, it’s a lovely and beautiful country, and my being stuck in hatred for shameful (horrendous and any other word you can think of) acts perpetrated many many years ago isn’t going to get anyone anywhere. 

Lastly, Oprah left that church a while ago so as to distance herself from stuff like this. 

This is bad for Obama, and bad for a reason.  Not because the “vast right wing conspiracy” is out to get him, but because he screwed up.  He tried to play off that he transcended these racial divides but used them to his advantage when no one was paying attention.

Now we are, and now he’s on the defensive. 

Keep up the research and let me know if you find anything good.  And again, good work.